i did a number of commentaries for many years for both cbs and then for npr and i had to write these sure things. they had to be pretty punchy. so my riding style is kind of a lawyer's analytical writing, an awful lot of writing that is not legal, and writing an awful lot of stuff that had to be punchy. that is stirred into the pot. >> during this time, you said there were two 0.1 million -- i don't know what they were called then, but the colonists in those days in this country? >> there would have been 2.1 million whites. it is very imprecise because they had official censuses in a few colonies. >> where were the population centers? >> the population centers, the biggest populations were pennsylvania and virginia. massachusetts had a good size population. west virginia was growing by leaps and bounds as people went south through pennsylvania and virginia to the western part of north carolina. a lot of the colonies were very small. so they had no real impact in bringing a revolution about. new hampshire and rhode island to a certain extent. new jersey and georgia was very small in p